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Podcast Episode #60: Miracle Monday with Dr. Torry Hinson

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Dr. Chad Woolner: Welcome to Miracle Mondays, a brand new segment of the laser light show focused exclusively on practitioners and patients’ amazing and sometimes even unbelievable stories that are occurring each and every day all across the country. We hope that you really enjoy these. And hopefully, you can see that miracles are occurring all around us each and every day. These are the amazing things we get to hear. And now you get to hear as well. So we hope you enjoy Miracle Mondays. All right, welcome to the show, everybody. On today’s episode of the laser light show, we have with us, Dr. Torry Hinson. We’re super excited to chat with him and find out about a story that he has to share with us. It’s pretty incredible.




Dr. Andrew Wells

Dr. Chad Woolner

Dr. Torry Hinson


Dr. Chad Woolner: So let’s get to it. Growing up in Portland, Oregon, I used to love going to laser light shows at the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry; they would put on these amazing light shows with incredible designs synced up to some of my favorite music from the Beatles to Pink Floyd to Jimi Hendrix and Metallica. They were awesome. Little did I know then that lasers would have such a profound effect on my life decades later. As a chiropractic physician, I have seen firsthand just how powerful laser therapy is at helping patients struggling with a wide range of health problems. As the leader in laser therapy, Erchonia has pioneered the field in obtaining 20 of the 23 total FDA clearances for therapeutic application of lasers. On this podcast, we’ll explore the science and technology and physiology behind what makes these tools so powerful. Join me as we explore low-level laser therapy. I’m Dr. Chad Woolner, along with my good friend, Dr. Andrew Wells, and welcome to the laser light show. All right, welcome to the show, everybody. And a special welcome to Dr. Torry Hinson. Glad to have you here.


Dr. Torry Hinson: Pleasure to be here.


Dr. Chad Woolner: So Dr. Tory, you’re originally from Texas, or you just moved from Texas?


Dr. Torry Hinson: We moved here about eight years ago.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Oh, have you been here that long?


Dr. Torry Hinson: Yeah, I’ve been here a while.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Okay. I thought you were relatively new here to the area.


Dr. Torry Hinson: No, no, I’ve just been kind of tucked away in my little office just hammering away with patients. Okay.


Dr. Chad Woolner: So when I say here, literally, for those listening, Dr. Torry Hinson has a practice stone’s throw literally, I could probably throw a rock and hit your practice from where our practices are. So he’s literally just down the street, we met and connected at a Cell Core conference, the ICO event. Was that back in May, I think, time flies. But yeah, and so. So yeah, you’re practicing over there. And you’ve been using Erchonia lasers now for how long in your practice?


Dr. Torry Hinson: I bought my first laser, I want to say about 20 years ago, was their original one, that little line beam was just one little beam. And, of course, back then I had absolutely no idea how to use it, right? He just got it and went at it. And then just started, you know, pointing and shooting and. And then as time went on, I started to apply different ideas and stuff that I was picking up from other practitioners. And yeah, it’s just evolved from there. They’re just great tools. And devices.


Dr. Chad Woolner: And I always love hearing from practitioners who’ve been using them for as long as you have just because it’s gotta be such a cool thing for you to see the evolution in terms of the technology and how things and how they continue to evolve and improve.


Dr. Torry Hinson: You know, that’s like, you know, I think I saw something on social media not too long ago with I think one of the original iPhones was being auctioned off for like, $100,000, really. And so I was like, I wonder how much an original Erchonia laser might be worth something, you know, someday.


Dr. Chad Woolner: You know, it’s funny, we’ve talked about it on this app on this podcast, we had made some mention about Erchonia should have like a museum and they do that they’re their headquarters. In fact, they’re in the process of building, you know, their new headquarters. There’ll be there’ll be relocating, I think, last we heard kind of near the end of the year after Atlanta. Yeah. And so anyways, but I am dying to see the like, the meat, I want to say the library, the Museum of these lasers to see kind of that evolution in terms of that timeframe. How cool and at the same token, at the same time that I say that what’s so cool, too, is the practitioners that I talked to, it’s not as though the original lasers got poor results. You know what I mean? They got awesome results back then, too. It’s just that it’s gotten even better, you know, which is so cool to hear. Yeah. So, so tell us, for those who are listening, kind of introduce yourself, maybe talk a little bit about your practice because you practice a little different than I would say most chiropractors and you’ve got kind of a unique background. Tell us a little bit about that.


Dr. Torry Hinson: Well, I graduated school in 2000 from Texas chiropractic college. And I have to say that I remember going to school and hearing about Kinesiology. And of course, a lot of my professors kind of like, you know badmouth that because they felt like it was, you know, subjective, not the objective thing. But I guess the thing I noticed was that these guys that did it and did it we’ll always get amazing results, right? Oh, right. And I thought I had, I want to be like that. And, you know, I didn’t really want to get into the insurance game. And I felt like, hey, if I could somehow differentiate myself and do some different things, and maybe get the kind of results these guys were getting, then I should look into it. And so it was like you use the word evolution, it truly has been an evolution for me. In fact, I have some patients coming in from Texas later on this month that I haven’t seen, probably 10-12 years. Wow. And I think I saw them when I was only like, a year and a half in and I’m like, How do these people even come? So I was terrible.


Dr. Chad Woolner: It’s why they call it practice man.


Dr. Chad Woolner: It’s why they call it practice, man.


Dr. Torry Hinson: Right, I was so awful. And the guy goes, boy, it’s just been fun to watch, you get better and better. And anyway, so then started to start my first practice outside of Austin, Texas, and a little town called Marble Falls. Okay. And then practice there about 10 years and then relocated to Houston, right around that economic crash of oh, 8k. Okay, to the big city and where I was from, started to see patients there. And then one thing led to another and I, you know, I had family here and I just thought, Man, I want to, I want to live in Idaho. So about 2015 and made the move and started practice all over again. And,


Dr. Chad Woolner: And that’s been here the whole time in the kind of Boise area.


Dr. Torry Hinson: Yeah, I was here in Meridian. I originally started down the road at the village. Oh, that’s right. Yeah. And I was in a little, my wife calls it a broom closet. I was in this tiny little executive suite. And I was there for several years and then outgrew it. Oh, yeah. No, it was it was I was way overdue. But so yeah, I started to combine a lot of Kinesiology with the use of the laser. Yeah. And it was just phenomenal to see the kind of results that you can get with patients. And it’s kind of neat, right? Because with these lasers, patients can’t feel it. Right. So this is another way to show them that a change occurred. Sure, right. We can do range of motion tests and befores and afters and things like that. Right. So kinesiology was a great fit. And then initially, I started in applied kinesiology and then eventually moved into clinical kinesiology, which is where you’re breaking down like 500 different muscles in the body. And, but, but I always wanted to figure out how do I merge the two, you know? And so over the years, I’ve tinkered with it, like you call it practice, and download with it and try to figure out like, you know, how does it work? How can we make these mesh together? And so now, I always think I’ve got it figured out, and then someone comes into the office, and I’m like, Okay, well, that didn’t work. So now you got to figure it out, you know, what we need to do different for this person. But it’s been, it’s been ups and downs, like, you know, practices. Yeah. But it’s been so fun. Yeah.


Dr. Chad Woolner: And so, recently, you had kind of a crazy story that we’re kind of kind of focus our attention on.


Dr. Torry Hinson: Sure.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Tell us a little bit about that.


Dr. Torry Hinson: So this was June 16. So it hasn’t been quite a month yet. I had a patient come in. His name’s David. And he came into the office, having had a traumatic brain injury from a car accident that he had had about a little over a year prior to. So I think they said it was a 14 months now. Yeah. And when he came in, he was on one of these forearm walkers, you know, where they have their arms up on the rest of the reforms on those walkers. Yeah. And I think he kind of, you know, he comes into the office. And at first, I hadn’t, you know, my front desk person had scheduled them and all that. And so I didn’t really quite know the extent Yeah, what I was up against here. So I come out to the reception area and see this guy, and I’m like, Oh, wow, a lot more. A lot more. Exactly. Yeah. And so. But he and his wife are they’re seriously one of the greatest and nicest couples you’d ever meet. Yeah. And so I didn’t want to make any promises. But I said, Hey, let’s see how you respond to what we’re doing. And so we brought him back and just to kind of give you a little history about him. He was T-boned in a T-bone car accident. Someone had run a stop sign right out here in some of these back country, side roads. And T-boned him and he ended up in ICU with like, I think, a 45% chance to live.


Dr. Andrew Wells: Wow.


Dr. Torry Hinson: They said a 22% chance of a good outcome on this. And anyway, so he had ended up with hydrocephalus, all kinds of complications ended up having seven brain operations. Wow. And they’re telling me all this stuff, and my eyes just keep getting bigger and bigger. And I’m leaving hope I haven’t bitten off more than I can chew here. But right, but I was willing to try. And I think that’s sometimes where some of the greatest stories occur. You just try. And, you know, he saw was taking more of their history, and he had to learn how to sit and swallow again. And then he actually lost 10 years of his memory. So wow, he did not know who this woman was, that was always in his, you know, hospital room with him and stuff. They had friends that kind of helped convince him that he was married. And you know, being a Christian, he joked the other day when he was in the office, he said, being a Christian guy just thought this woman was trying to commit adultery with me or something. And he had no idea and But gradually, bit by bit, his memory started coming back. And actually, if I’m not mistaken. He’s said the memories have only started coming back since just a few months, a few months ago. Yeah. And so when they came into my office, he was on this Walker, just kind of shuffling his feet down the hall. And we got him on the table. He couldn’t stand up off the table. It couldn’t stand up off the chairs in the reception area. Yeah. And so I thought, well, I’m going to start videoing this because you never know. Right. And I wanted to be able to show him his progress. Because sometimes when you’re dealing and I’ve worked with stroke patients in the past, what I’ve learned is sometimes when you’re dealing with these people, because they’re so disconnected from their bodies, they can’t they can’t tell that improvements being like, you’ll sit there and say, wow, like their family will they’ll do something after we’ve done some treatment? The family members are wowed. But they are like, well, I can’t feel any. I don’t feel any different. Right, right. I don’t know if you’ve ever had that. It’s 100%.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Yeah, well, and what you’re talking about there is interesting, I was thinking about this, as you’re talking about that because little things are still big things, you know what I mean, in terms of like, improving, and I think sometimes when we think of like, let’s just say, a traumatic brain injury, you know, we automatically go to Okay, let’s get this guy back to running marathons and waterskiing the way that he liked to. And it’s like that, that’s great. No, but let’s, let’s focus our efforts one step at a time. And don’t lose sight of the fact that just getting this guy to walk unassisted is a huge win, even though that’s a small thing. That’s a big thing, you know.


Dr. Torry Hinson: And that’s what they were looking for. They were just like, anything you can do. Yeah. I mean, this guy was in bad shape. And, you know, the fact that he was still breathing was a win, right after an injury like that. And, anyway, so he had, so we just, we started working with him. Um, I started to see you know, sometimes with people like this muscle testing isn’t easy, because I kind of we test individual muscles right throughout the body. So in essence, what I did with this guy was I was trying to say, Hey, can you even put your foot in the position to, for me to test it? Right? Well, he failed. And so then I said, Well, I didn’t want to start getting too aggressive, of course with them. And in the past, what I had done was I would work with just with laser. Yeah. And I’ve learned so much from guys like, you know, Dr. Berry and Dr. Brock, and you know, people in the Erchonia arena, and I’ve just kind of compiled notes over the years. Sure. So finally, what I started to do is he kind of presented with a stroke pattern, like all that weakness on one side of the body, right. And he has the, you know, the arm that his right arm is curled up, and you can’t really extend that. And so I just said, Hey, I just want to see if we get some sort of a change here. And so since it was on his right side of his body, like the weaknesses, I started stimulating the with lasers started stimulating the left cortex part of his brain. And then I just tried to have him move his foot. And when you say stimulate, let’s get real specific here. What laser were you using? Yeah, initially, I was just using accelerate.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Okay.


Dr. Torry Hinson: Just a simple like the introductory unit.


Dr. Chad Woolner: And what frequencies were you using?


Dr. Torry Hinson: So I use the frequencies that Dr. Barry recommended. So I used to use the one 140 60 Yeah, yeah. And I just started stimulating that and I was trying to say, hey, let’s see what kind of change we made and and then obviously, you want to be careful because you don’t know how much someone can tolerate Sure. But I’m also the opinion that we usually under treat. Yeah, and so but everyone’s tolerance is different, of course, and wow. I mean, all the sides then this foot just shoots out there. And wow, okay, that’s a pretty cool, yeah, that’s pretty neat. And then I went to the cerebellum, the back back behind the ear, you know, on the right side, sort of stimulating that, and then I knew that the, we were trying to test the peroneus tertius, that’s a muscle on the outside of the ankle, right, that runs. It’s the s one nerve root. So I just started having a move that foot like that. And then next thing, you know, I go down to this nerve root. So just, you know, you kind of go through the abdomen, approximately where the s one nerve root would be. So I stimulated all these areas, well, then he could put resistance against my test. And I told his wife, that’s what I want to see, you know, hey, I think I think we can do some things with him. And so we kept progressing. And they were just excited. Right? Yeah. And they were just excited to see something. And they had been seeing a cranial sacral therapist, who I had treated a couple of years ago, who said, Hey, I think you should go see this guy I’ve seen before he uses lasers, and it does some really cool stuff for the brain. Well, they were thrilled. And I said, Let’s have you come back later this week. So we did more work. But when he came back Now, granted, I’d only fix that one area of his foot. When he came back. I think it was two or three days later, the Walker was gone. Wow. And he’s just got this cane. I said, Hey, where’s your walker? He’s like, Well, I really haven’t needed it. And I thought get out of here. Right? And yeah, his wife. And so then I, we treated them again, did a little bit more, I said, Hey, I just want to see how much you can tolerate. started treating more nerves kept treating the brain. This time I brought in my FX 635. And we started stimulating his left cerebral cortex, his right cerebellum, while I was working on, you know, the nerve roots with the with the accelerate. And anyway, then after that second treatment, he gets up and starts walking, he still needed assistance getting up. Yeah. And then he just starts going down the hall. And he goes, You know, I just want to see if I can do this without the support of my cane. Sure. And he lifts his cane up and just starts kind of shuffling down the hall and I’m and his wife to start sobbing.


Dr. Chad Woolner: And this is this is the video that I saw. Right?


Dr. Torry Hinson: Right, right.


Dr. Chad Woolner: So for those who are listening, and they want to see that video, you have it on Facebook, do you know?


Dr. Torry Hinson: I’m actually going to upload them all I wanted to see like how the progression was gonna go. And so, I’ve actually sent them to Erchonia. Oh, they’re gonna put together a cool video. Okay. But what’s so nuts? Is that, like it gets. It gets pretty emotional when you get to help people. And these down to earth, salt of the earth people. And I asked him, I said, What’s your goal? And I almost broke down. He said, I just want to take care of my wife. And he didn’t like it. I want to be able to walk, I just wanted to be able to take care of my wife, because she was having to do everything for him. Right. So then we just, we just went to work. I mean, I started and then once I started getting some of these basic nerve muscle connections working, and he said it started in June. Is that what you said? I started June 16. With him. So it’s July.


Dr. Chad Woolner: This is really recent. Yes.


Dr. Torry Hinson: I’ve only seen him eight times. It’s only been a month. Almost a month, two days from now. Yeah. So. But what’s so bizarre is that he comes in on the third visit, and he’s stands up on his own. Wow. And I’m videoing this thing. So I’ve got all these videos and progressions so you can kind of see how he’s just evolving. And I think after the fourth or fifth visit, he came in and he said, Hey, he goes, I had an erection. Right? I jokingly said, why charge extra for those. And he said, his wife goes, we don’t care, whatever the cost is. But he also said, you know, my brain is coming alive. And he said, I just can think and his speech was improving. I hadn’t even worked on any of the cranial nerves that deal with that, right?


Dr. Chad Woolner: You’re just starting to see some systemic effects.


Dr. Torry Hinson: My whole goal initially was to say, I want him to be able to walk and not fall. Yeah, it was the first thoughts so I was kind of starting from the bottom up. And I was working my way up to week and start working on his arm and all that and so he had had not only that, but he had like four bowel movements in a day he had never had that happen. injury. And but you know, he’s standing up his you know, I’m trying not to cry my eyes out every time he comes in because you’re seeing this guy does come back to life. Yeah, no doubt. And you know, what a privilege to be a part of something like that. Yeah. And so he just keeps getting better and better and I Keep thinking to myself, Okay, eventually we’re going to plateau here. But every time he comes in, I said, I think it was after the fourth visit, he goes, and I walked 100 yards with no cane. He goes in my life kind of started to get a little tired. And he said, No, no, that’s great. So I encourage patients like him. To stress it a little bit. We got to kind of see, okay, hey, did our correction hold despite the stress you put on the body?


Dr. Chad Woolner: Yeah. And, you know, it’s interesting that you give that advice to stress it. I’m in the middle of reading a book right now called the Talent Code. Yeah. Have you read that book? No, I’ve heard of it. Let me for those who are listening here. Let me see if I can remember, I can’t remember the name of the author. So I’m gonna pull it up real quick. But it’s really interesting, by Daniel Coyle, the Talent Code, if you just look it up on Amazon, and what they’re basically saying, among many things, is the secret to learning anything, any skill and developing it faster and with a stronger degree of mastery, is that you have to stress the system, meaning you have to go further than the beat than the bounds of your comfort zone. This should make perfect sense to all of us. Sure. But the interesting thing is, in doing that process of taking things to, you know, just past that comfort zone, that boundary, it’s, and again, we understand this to a certain degree, I think more than most, but he’s talking about this whole idea. He’s really emphasizing this whole idea of myelin and myelination, yes, that when you’re doing that you’re improving the myelination, or the installation of the nerves, which improves the conductivity, which improves the connectivity, which improves the just overall function of anything. And so, in essence, what you’re saying, and what you’re doing is in harmony, complete harmony with Well, that’s cool, saying, Yeah.


Dr. Torry Hinson: It’s really kind of cool. Yeah. And I and I keep telling, I tell all my patients, I was like, muscles have to, in order for muscles to work, they have to receive input from the central nervous system, right and spinal cord. So now, as time has gone on, I’ve, you know, I’m starting to integrate all of this together, even with my individual muscle corrections I do with patients. What blew my mind is when he came in yesterday, and he said, That was number eight. This was visit number eight. So just prior to visit number eight, he said, I walked two laps around the track, that’s a half mile. Wow. And I said, come on now. Are you being serious? Are you just and I said, and he goes, No, I’m telling you, I walked to half a mile. I said, Well, I want to see how this held up. Right. So we put him on the table and started evaluating these nerve nerve roots and via the muscle test. You know, because for those of you I’m sure people have remember in school, where they talked about my atoms and specific muscles related the different levels of the spinal cord, and so I was checking those and two of them I had to reset. Okay, but that was the first time I’d had to reset them. So he may have stressed that a little bit sharking. Sure. And then, you know, his wife goes, you know, I just, this is a really big deal. Yeah, man. I think one of the coolest things was after about two weeks of treatment, so I think I’d seen him probably four times, maybe five times, his folks had been out of town. Before I started treating, said, I had no idea I had no clue. And they come back into town and see him and his mother just starts crying and goes up and gives him a hug. And she goes now so his wife’s telling me this story. And she goes, You didn’t know what kind of a big deal this is? Yeah. They’re not a super affectionate family. Yeah. And to see him doing what he was doing just brought them to tears. And, like, this is almost become like a spiritual experience in many ways. And, but then just to watch his progression, I had a patient come in and he said, Hey, I think you’re working on one of my friends. And I said, Oh, really, who and he tells me he’s like, dude, he climbed the stairs to my apartment. And he goes, I kept telling him you got to hold on to the railing You’re freaking me out like because he was just trying to climb stairs and Yeah, and so you know, once I got all those myotomes working and all that stuff, we started kind of, you know, working on individual muscles. So we started working on the muscles that would stabilize his pelvis and keep him straight up, right? So we worked on his glute muscles and again, I’m working on muscle attachments and maybe using like a adjusting device to just do very gentle adjustments, you know, kind of like an Arthur stammer, yeah, something like that. And so but again, he’s getting laser every visit for every single correction. So like say If I find a glute, I know that okay, l five s one nerve roots are a couple. So we laser that laser check to see and then work those muscle attachments. And they’ve even found that as you start to activate muscles, it makes changes in brainwaves, which is really cool.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Yeah. And well, we were taught we were talking, that doesn’t surprise me at all. We were talking to we were interviewing Dr. Adam Harcourt. And he was saying that if I recall correctly, so I’ll have to go back now and listen to that episode again. But he was saying that’s one of the things that they’re finding now with Botox is that Botox is negatively impeding the input to the brain because you’re missing that those muscles firing and those muscles firing since input up to the brain and proprioceptive input. And so what it’s doing is it’s starting to change in a negative way, not in a positive way. And, and the problem is most people think of Botox as kind of this harmless kind of thing. Yeah, you just do that. And you don’t think about the long term and, and the thing that he’s saying is, it’s it’s, I don’t think people are starting to see the real long term consequences until quite a ways later,


Dr. Torry Hinson: Yeah, for sure. And you can go in and evaluate people’s, you know, cranial nerves five and seven, the facial expression ones, and eventually, I can always tell who the Botox people are. I bet because they can’t. Well, like you’ve probably seen what they can’t raise their eyebrows. Yeah. And so and I think at that soul core conference we were at right they had someone get up there and talk about that, just how awful that stuff is, like black box label stuff. Yeah. But this guy continues to improve and it doesn’t blows my mind. I mean, I sent my most recent video draconian yesterday, and they were just blown away as amazing. You know, he stands up now and his gait. I’ve almost got all of this. Like, initially, as you start to get these guys to walk, you know, they’ll have that flip flopping, right, you can hear them tapping their feet, or people who can’t lift their foot. If those muscles don’t fire, right, they can’t lift their foot so they’ll flop or you’ll hear him shuffle. And, it’s been such a cool experience to watch. This guy literally evolved before my eyes.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Yeah, no doubt.


Dr. Torry Hinson: I just think we’re so fortunate to have devices like this. And, you know, it still blows my mind, you know, what might have happened had this guy had a laser on his brain, like, you know, soon after the accident, right? I mean, I keep thinking, why don’t they have these in ers? You know, and ICUs and stuff, but


Dr. Chad Woolner: And that really, without sounding overly dramatic. But what you’re saying is exactly right on par with that’s why we’re having number one, this podcast number two, these, these episodes, right? So for listeners, this is your cue here will challenge you. Share this with your doctor, share this with, you know, and along with that, look at have them, look at the literature, have them take a sincere look at the literature and what they will find when they start hearing these stories. When they start seeing literature, they’ll start to see a very clear pattern emerging. Absolutely, that this is not coincidence. This is certainly not placebo. This is this is the real deal. You know, and so, and that’s the thing is the entire from the get go when we started this podcast with Erchonia. That was the entire mission and vision and purpose behind it. them and us was we need this, we need lasers to be a mainstream strategy and tool, not this kind of thing that’s relegated to the fringes of all I’ve heard of that this obscure kind of, well, that sounds weird. Why would you put a laser on someone’s brain? That’s weird, you know, when in reality, this should be absolutely. Like you said this should be mainstream. This should be a standard of care.


Dr. Torry Hinson: Oh, absolutely. You know, I mean, it wasn’t Russia. Right. And the Russians were made to the standard of care a long time. Absolutely. And unfortunately, we have, you know, so much red tape here in the States, right. Yeah. And so I think there’s so much misunderstanding about users, right? And especially the difference between the hot lasers and but yeah, it wakes people out when you can just put a laser on part of their brain in some distant part of their body, like a foot or a toe. All of a sudden starts moving. And it’s just, I think, you know, I’m in a Facebook group with Dr. Kurt Garr. Yeah. Right. And so it’s really cool to see all these new people buying lasers and yeah, and dipping their toes in that world and in that pool, and I just I hope that more practitioners start to open their minds to these devices because I’m still blown away. I’ve been using them for a long time. And I’m still blown away with some of the stuff it does. I’m like, I didn’t know I could do that.


Dr. Chad Woolner: I told ya a good friend of mine who’s also a local doc here, just down the road from us. Dr. Matt Ogle. Yeah, he just added an E VRL. And now he’s gonna be getting I think because Arona and like, I told him, man, and it’s so funny because he’s been talking to Penny pennies, his rep. And he said, she’s been so assumptive the entire time in terms of like, when you add this next laser, and when you this is gonna be your first of many. And at first, he was like, taken aback by that, like, Man, she’s really hard selling. Yeah, you know, and then all of a sudden, he realizes after I’m talking to him, and he’s starting to hear like, I’m like, no, just just wait, you’ll see, you know, just wait, you’ll see. Because you’ll, you’ll realize, like, and I’m like, I don’t mean I really don’t mean to sound like this, like, you know, zealot weirdo, but it’s like you do you see these things? And you’re like, how can you not practice without this tool? Now?


Dr. Torry Hinson: I’m jonesing for a GVL lazy right now. I mean, I’m thinking if I’m getting results like this, you know, you know, stimulating that part of the mitochondrial recipe that chain the complex for I’m like, good gracious, what should I do with a right with a green violet? Where you can stimulate complex one, two and three. Yeah. So I’m like, geeking out. Yeah, I listened to all these different, like, Y’all know, this podcast and other interviews, and, you know, listening to the shanks talk about, you know, the stuff that’s coming down the pipeline and all this stuff. And so it’s, it’s so fun. And yeah, it’s a lot of fun to help people get their life back to change their lives and give them hope. Yeah, so I just hope that doctors get an opportunity to, you know, see how these devices work. And, and I, it’s so cool, because it’s really hard to hurt someone with it. You can’t, I mean, you really have to do some dumb to hurt him in the head with the laces. That’s about what you would have to do to hurt him. And so, but you know, and it’s not even with David’s great story. The things you can do with all kinds of musculoskeletal issues, like you know, and I love it. I love listening to this podcast, because I get ideas from some of the other Doc’s right and how they’re using how they’re implementing them in their office. Yeah. And so it gives me ideas and but yeah, this guy’s David is doing so well. And every time he leaves, I’m like, surely he’ll plateau. He comes back. And he can do something else. And barriers.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Yeah. Well, what we’ll do is, we’ll have to do like a year follow up or something like that six month or your follow up? We’ll do like a part two to this. And we’ll just see, continue because no doubt, I’m sure we’ll see. continued improvement there for sure. So amazing.


Dr. Torry Hinson: So yeah, his voice is improved. His speech has improved. Like he’s talking. She’s his wife says, you know, he sounds more like himself now than he ever has. And so again, it’s, you know, you will, if you listen to any of the dogs listening, if you don’t have one of these devices, you will change people’s lives. Chad, I know you’ve seen this. Yeah, practice. And, you know, even if every doctor in this area had lasers, we still couldn’t see everybody that that would benefit from Absolutely. And so it makes sure does make getting up in the morning going to work a lot more fun. Absolutely.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Absolutely. Well, we certainly appreciate you taking time with us to share the story. It’s really been incredible to hear and very, very rewarding to see and experience these types of miracles.


Dr. Torry Hinson: So we shall post this on Facebook and Instagram. And we’ll put together some so people can see this because you know, the videos are worth 1000 words. Absolutely.


Dr. Chad Woolner: Absolutely. So awesome. Well, listeners, if this was inspiring to you, share this with others. And that’s how we help more people at the end of the day. That’s how this gets out there. So share this with others and have an amazing day. We’ll talk to you guys on the next episode. Thanks for listening to the laser light show, be sure to subscribe and give us a review. If you’re interested in learning more about Erchonia lasers just head on over to Erchonia.com. There you’ll find a ton of useful resources including research news and links to upcoming live events, as well as Erchonia E community where you can access for free additional resources including advanced training and business tools. Again, thanks for listening and we will catch you on the next episode.

About The Guest(s):

Dr.Tony Hinson graduated from Texas Chiropractic College in 2000 and recalls being introduced to Kinesiology during school, though some professors criticized it as subjective. Wanting to differentiate from the insurance-driven approach, Dr. Hinson decided to explore Kinesiology and low level laser therapy, considering it an evolutionary process. The decision has proven successful, with patients returning after 10-12 years, reflecting the speaker’s growth and improved effectiveness in practice.


Dr.Hinson initially practiced in Meridian, starting in a small space and eventually expanding due to growth. Combining Kinesiology with laser therapy, the speaker observed remarkable results that patients couldn’t physically feel. This approach allowed for effective demonstrations of positive changes through a range of motion tests. Diving into both applied and clinical kinesiology, Dr.Hinson aimed to integrate the two seamlessly. Despite continuous experimentation and occasional challenges, Dr.Hinson finds the journey enjoyable and rewarding in the ups and downs of the practice.


Key Takeaways:

Dr.Hinson combines Kinesiology with laser therapy, emphasizing that sometimes the best results come from taking a risk.



“I started to combine a lot of Kinesiology with the use of the laser…it was just phenomenal to see the kind of results that you can get with patients….with these lasers, patients can’t feel it.…I started in applied kinesiology and then eventually moved into clinical kinesiology, which is where you’re breaking down like 500 different muscles in the body.” -Dr.Hinson


“So I stimulated all these areas…so we kept progressing. …so we did more work. But when he came back Now, granted, I’d only fix that one area of his foot. When he came back. I think it was two or three days later, the walker was gone.” -Dr.Hinson


“his voice has improved. His speech has improved.” -Dr. hinson